tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post8863117237809520731..comments2023-10-11T14:18:03.816+01:00Comments on Works Well: No laughs here, I fearRoderick Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-57936011309779635362011-02-19T13:56:59.790+00:002011-02-19T13:56:59.790+00:00Julia, Kyung Wha Chung is probably best known for ...Julia, Kyung Wha Chung is probably best known for her Vivaldi. Her Tchaikovsky violin concerto (with Charles Dutoit) from the early 80's is available on Decca and thrills me over and over.Rouchswalwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01393987883437907945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-28322256873834974872011-02-19T11:50:56.062+00:002011-02-19T11:50:56.062+00:00Julia: Be warned, these exchanges could go on and ...Julia: Be warned, these exchanges could go on and on. I assume you've read G. B. Shaw's music criticism. Here's a letter he sent to Heifetz in 1920:<br /><br />"Your recital has filled my wife and I with anxiety. If you provoke a jealous God by playing with such superhuman perfection, you will die young. I earnestly advise you to play something badly every night before going to bed, instead of saying your prayers. No mortal should presume to play so faultlessly."<br /><br />Of course this was at a time when string players still thought it was OK to get from Note A to Note B via good old portamento.<br /><br />Hattie: I always thought it was the nature of the strings (ie, cat-gut vs. whatever) that gave period playing its characteristic tone. Alas, you may not like modern violin playing but you must be grateful for modern recording techniques. Without them period-strung violins generate far less sound.Roderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-11077987831062647082011-02-19T02:32:59.930+00:002011-02-19T02:32:59.930+00:00The Bach solo violin pieces were played with the B...The Bach solo violin pieces were played with the Baroque curved bow, which allowed variable tension. Players could play chords without strain. I have the 1952 Rolph Schroeder recording done with the curved bow, under the supervision of Albert Schweizer. Maybe I should dust it off and listen to it again. I played it so many times it probably isn't worth much. <br />The recordings I hear with the modern bow sound hideous to me. <br />We have an overabundance these days of show-offey violinists, if you ask me.Hattiehttp://hattie.typepad.com/hatties_web/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-30303315202494977522011-02-18T20:41:05.478+00:002011-02-18T20:41:05.478+00:00R- I'll have to try Kyung Wha Chung, I've ...R- I'll have to try Kyung Wha Chung, I've never heard her play.<br /> <br />BB- Oistrakh is one of my favorites too. I spent a year in university listening to all the recordings our music library had of his performances. His broad sound is more appealing to me than Heifetz, or even the more modern performers. I also like Itzhak Perlman quite a bit. Milstein's Bach recordings are pretty great for pedagogy - I listened to his recordings for all my bowings when I was a kid, but he didn't thrill me the way Oistrakh does, it is true.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381204473168533313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-54048938968493142402011-02-18T17:58:10.225+00:002011-02-18T17:58:10.225+00:00Anne: You'll notice the custard-pie risk refer...Anne: You'll notice the custard-pie risk reference in the first para. This is a coded way of saying it was time I took on a post for which I am unqualified.<br /><br />I know next to nothing about music which puts me in the huge majority. But wherever possible I like to write about what little I know in a way that is intelligible to those similarlly afflicted. But blogs have a way of biting back. Having climbed laboriously over the counterpoint hurdle I completely messed up the distinctions between Perlman, Zukerman and Millstein. I shall seek to disguise this error in the next post with a destructive piece about the West Riding or my belly-button, both subjects I have mastered.Roderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-32012935490981650392011-02-18T17:08:50.805+00:002011-02-18T17:08:50.805+00:00I know very little about music -- just know, as th...I know very little about music -- just know, as they say, what I like. But I learned something from this post, and for that I am grateful. <br /><br />I first read it last night, and thought, oh now, too complicated for my feeble brain. This morning it seems perfectly clear. Especially good is BB's comment in response to Julia.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979547096244105508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-50022287790188018412011-02-18T12:35:05.157+00:002011-02-18T12:35:05.157+00:00Julia: ... although it wss Milstein I heard at the...Julia: ... although it wss Milstein I heard at the JY. Oh dear...Roderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-23998036272052624992011-02-18T12:33:47.530+00:002011-02-18T12:33:47.530+00:00Julia: For Nathan Milstein read Pinchas Zukerman.Julia: For Nathan Milstein read Pinchas Zukerman.Roderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-27449701473294838212011-02-18T12:30:45.460+00:002011-02-18T12:30:45.460+00:00Julia: In simplistic terms I imagined it went some...Julia: In simplistic terms I imagined it went something like this: Old King Cole - Jack and Jill - was a merry old soul - went up the hill. Thus the alternating parts would be of different tunes but also played in contrasting ways so that after a while the listener became aware of two separate voices meshing. Clearly it is far more complicated than that and, as far as I can make out, the single line is written such that it can be taken as a tune in its own right but containing elements which - with time - emerge as different tunes. In fact Solomon says six voices can be detected in the chaconne.<br /><br />Favourite violinist. Wow1 I'm glad you weren't asking about pianists where I've got favourites for individual works, let alone composers (eg, Solomon - not Larry of that ilk - doing LvB, op 109). I have a soft spot for David Oistrakh who was the first to reveal the Sibelius concerto as a masterpiece to me. Big romantic sound. I have to say Itzhak is pretty good (esp. Bach) and comes off better than Nathan Milstein , with whom he often seemed to be twinned and whom I heard at the Jewish Y in Pittsburgh where he was just a mite too slick. However, talking about more modern names I sought a replacement for our LvB cto (now ditched; can't remember the name) and the BBC3 Building a Library series recommended Thomas Zehetmair. Persuasive power. As to so-called period violinists I was fantastically impressed last night by either Cecilia Bernardini or Sarah Moffatt (the programme doesn't distinguish who was the leader) with the New London Consort doing Purcell's The Fairy Queen in an excellent updated version (reviewed on Tuesday Feb 15in The Guardian) which I intend to blog about some time.<br /><br />RW (zS): Itzhak's a virtuoso anyway but I must confess I took to him following a documentary about an all-star version of The Trout where he was seen playing with his kids in the garden and "speaking" to them via the violin.Roderick Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828395545197001637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-76637005686383756372011-02-18T11:12:37.362+00:002011-02-18T11:12:37.362+00:00Kyung Wha Chung is one of my favorites, although m...Kyung Wha Chung is one of my favorites, although my lack of music vocabulary prevents me from explaining why exactly. I think she plays without flabbiness.Rouchswalwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01393987883437907945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4763772100015353700.post-4030763133440064412011-02-17T21:24:51.117+00:002011-02-17T21:24:51.117+00:00To paraphrase Larry Solomon - anyone playing that ...To paraphrase Larry Solomon - anyone playing that piece should hear those voices and pull them out of the music. Listen to Hilary Hahn play the chaconne, she starts out with one voice and then starts a two part conversation that then grows into something much more complicated. She separates the voices with deliberate differences in bowing and dynamics too. <br /><br />But enough nerdiness from me! Who is your favorite violinist and do you like one performer for Bach and another for the great 19th c concertos or do you have one that fits all categories?Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02381204473168533313noreply@blogger.com